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Tap Into Your Vulnerability with Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson
October 15, 2025·1h 18m
This week on IMO, Craig and Michelle are joined by basketball legends and fellow podcasters Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson. The two discuss their careers on the court, how they have evolved both personally and professionally since retiring from basketball, and the steps they are taking to embrace the type of healthy masculinity they want for their own sons. Have a question you want answered?