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Jill Schulman - A Marine Veteran Explains How to Conquer Fear - E217

October 5, 2026·50m

Jill Schulman was one of the first women to lead in Marine Corps combat engineering. She then turned a career in pharma and corporate leadership development into a master's in positive psychology at Penn, and she has trained more than 30,000 leaders around one idea: action creates confidence. Her book, The Bravery Effect, delivers that science as a parable. In this conversation, she and I make sense of why waiting until you feel ready is a trap, what a terrifying obstacle course taught her about fear, and why bravery is a skill anyone can build. You will also hear the one small step you can put on your calendar for tomorrow. Stay with me.