Trump’s $2,000 Tariff Dividend Doesn’t Add Up — Here’s Why

Ed Elson sits down with Justin Wolfers, Professor of Economics and Public Policy at the University of Michigan, to unpack President Trump’s proposed $2,000 tariff dividend. Then, Alex Heath, author of The Verge’s Sources newsletter and co-host of the Decoder podcast, joins the show to break down the growing rivalry between Anthropic and OpenAI, and their sharply different business strategies.