"It's a Story of Hubris": NYT journalists Maggie Habeman and Jonathan Swan on their new book analyzing Trump's second term, "Regime Change"

June 23, 2026; 7am: NYT journalists Maggie Habeman and Jonathan Swan join for a deep discussion on their new book analyzing the first year Trump's second term, 'Regime Change' To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts.